Record labels including Sony, Universal and Warner are suing two major AI music-making companies, accusing them of copyright infringement. Mitch Glazier, CEO of the Recording Industry Association of America, the industry group that represents record labels, talks to us about the argument they’re making. Next, we look at defense technology and explore why Silicon Valley appears to be changing its tune on collaboration with the military. Chris Kirchhoff, who used to run a special Pentagon office in Silicon Valley, explains what he thinks is behind this shift. And finally, we play another round of HatGPT.

Guest:

  • Mitch Glazier, president and CEO of the Recording Industry Association of America

  • Chris Kirchhoff, founding partner of the Defense Innovation Unit and author of Unit X: How the Pentagon and Silicon Valley Are Transforming the Future of Warfare

Further reading:

“Hard Fork” is organized by Kevin Roose and Casey Newton and produced by Raquel Cohn and Whitney Jones. This episode was edited by Larissa Anderson. Engineering by Corey Schreppel and original music Daniel Powell, Elisheba Ittoop and Rowan NiemistoFact verification by caitlin love.

Special thanks to Paula Szuchman, Pui-Wing Tam, Nell Gallogly, Kate LoPresti and Jeffrey Miranda.

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